they have to become the party of the middle class, and whether they look at marco rubio or governor christie, their brand has to change to win the election. >> mary? >> you just say that one of those guys don't look like normal problems. that's disdifference between conservatives and liberals. ideas are dangerous for good or evil. can i just say we're missing the reality here, the federal office aren't the entirety of our problem. we have mayors who are making progress in all kinds of states and all kinds of different people are stepping up to run for office. rubio and ryan are very deep in policy. policies have been reflected in huge successes in indiana and wisconsin and across the country and everywhere republicans hold the majorities of the governor ship. >> two speeches, written, a nice-looking guy, take a good shot. they had a vote, they had a vote and it was a treaty that dick thornburg negotiated that bush pushed through, that everybody was about how you treat disabled people, it was not enforceable. somebody said, if you pass this, they're going to break into your house and you won'